Breaking into quant from a non-target background

By forge Research·6 min read·

Trading firms hire for three kinds of role, and they are not equally open. Developer roles are the most reachable from a non-target background. Research and trading roles lean heavily on grades and university. In every case the first hurdle is a timed test you can practise for.

TL;DRthe 30-second version
  • Developer roles are the realistic entry point. Research and trading roles favour top grades from target universities.
  • The first screen is a timed test: coding, mental maths, sequences or probability.
  • Passing the test does not guarantee an interview. There is a resume review after it.
  • Stepping stones include bank equities technology, short winter programmes and firm-run competitions.
Where this comes from
324 questions about quant and trading careers. Only 21% got an answer, the lowest rate of any career topic we looked at. How forge collects this.

Three roles, three doors

A long discussion set this out for a student from a less targeted course: research and trading roles look for top degree classes and strong grades from target universities, while development is judged on engineering. Stated grade cut-offs were quoted inconsistently and nobody had a current official figure.

RoleWhat it isHow open to non-target candidates
Quant developerBuilds trading systems and toolsMost open. Judged mainly on coding
Quant researcherBuilds models from dataNarrow. Top grades and strong maths expected
TraderMakes pricing and risk decisionsNarrow. Fast mental maths and probability

What the screens test

Candidates described these first-round formats across firms: a timed coding test on a standard platform, usually three or four questions in about 70 minutes to two hours; a mental arithmetic test, in one case 80 questions in eight minutes; number-sequence and pattern tests; short probability and expected-value games; and at one firm an unsupervised three-hour task to build a small trading system from a specification.

Two things surprised people. Some firms rejected applicants before sending any test. And a passing score was not the end: one candidate cleared the reported threshold on a coding screen and was turned down at the resume review that followed.

How much maths do you need?

Less than the reputation suggests for getting through interviews, according to people who had done them: introductory linear algebra and school-level probability were described as enough once you are past the screen. Mentors listed probability, statistics and linear algebra as the core, with Python for data work and C++ for developer roles. Speed matters as much as knowledge, which is why timed mental-maths practice is worth the hours.

Stepping stones

  • Bank equities technology. Named as a route into quant development, because front-office systems deal with execution and pricing.
  • Winter programmes. Four to five week programmes at trading firms work as an extended interview.
  • Insight and diversity programmes. Several firms run them for first and second-year students.
  • Competitions. Trading challenges and hackathons run by firms were reported to fast-track entrants to interviews.
  • Experience first. Engineers with a few years of systems work, especially in C++, asked about moving across later. It is a known path.

What helps a non-target resume

Because there is a resume review even after a good test score, the page has to give a reason to continue. Candidates and mentors pointed to competition results, strong grades in mathematics and systems modules, low-level or performance-focused projects, and prior internships anywhere near markets. One intern at a leading firm noted that many people in their intake had no previous internship, so a first-time applicant is not ruled out.

Check where the firm hires juniors

Location is a practical limit. At one point candidates noted that some of the best-known firms were not hiring juniors in Singapore at all, so the top graduate roles meant Hong Kong or the United States. That changes year to year. Check which office each role is for before investing in the process.

Expect silence

Nearly four in five questions about quant hiring in our data got no public answer. People move to private messages, and firms say little. Plan on preparing from formats, not from someone else's account of last week's interview. forge keeps step-by-step pages for several trading firms' Singapore processes.

What nobody confirmed

Quant hiring is the least documented area in forge's data, and most of what is described here comes from a small number of candidates. Test formats change, and grade expectations were never confirmed by any firm.

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Frequently asked questions

Can I get into quant from a non-target university?

Yes, most realistically as a quant developer. Candidates said research and trading roles lean heavily on top grades from target universities.

What do quant firm online tests cover?

Timed coding tests, mental arithmetic, number sequences, probability and expected-value games, and at some firms a take-home build task.

How much maths do I need for quant interviews?

People who had passed them said introductory linear algebra and school-level probability are enough once past the screen, with speed mattering as much as knowledge.

Does passing the online test guarantee an interview?

No. One candidate cleared the reported score threshold and was rejected at the resume review afterwards.

What is a good stepping stone into quant?

Bank equities technology, short winter programmes at trading firms and firm-run competitions were the routes candidates named.

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